Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

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Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by shmo » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:05 pm

Jinnai's new highscore on Allu's Short Level doesn't look valid to me. When he finished his head was more then half way into the block. Thoughts?
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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by manul_23 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:09 pm

Do you think Jinnai is a cheater!?
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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by Lord Kacper/KACPU » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:09 pm

Its valid, look at thing that his wheel is also in the end sprite. Just xmoto didint realized that so quick to pause recording replay. ;) End is hen his wheel touches this purple circle so its when his head is still not in the block. ;)

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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by shmo » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:32 pm

[quote=""manul_23""]Do you think Jinnai is a cheater!?[/quote]
No, but that doesn't mean that xm wouldn't bug occasionally.

Kac, as far as I can tell his head touched the block a bit before touching the flower, making it invalid.
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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by shmo » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:35 pm

Here's a screenshot of his head hitting the wall before hitting the flower.
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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by Lord Kacper/KACPU » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:40 pm

Though it's really weird I'd say some random behaviour caused dat. I am pretty sure that Jinnai didn't cheat. ;P

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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by shmo » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:48 pm

[quote=""Czapi""]Though it's really weird I'd say some random behaviour caused dat. I am pretty sure that Jinnai didn't cheat. ;P[/quote]
I'm not saying that he cheated.
I've had this type of bug happen myself with xmoto and I don't cheat either. It was probably just an accident.
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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by unnheulu » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:20 am

You can't tell that his head was in the wall before he touched the flower, xmoto doesn't save all the frames and the intermediate frames are generated by replay interpolation to make it look smoother.
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Re: Invalid Highscore by Jinnai

Post by Cirpacha » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:09 am

In Shmolagin's pic the driver's head just overlaps with the white border of the solid block which doesn't yet kill the player, just an interesting note. I've had, though, some replays where the driver's head is clearly inside a block when finishing even with the most current version; unn explained why.

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